Legislature(1993 - 1994)

03/31/1994 08:00 AM House STA

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  CSHB 226:  "An Act relating to the rate of interest and                      
  service charges in the state; relating to interest rates and                 
  calculation of interest under certain judgments and decrees                  
  and on refunds of certain taxes, royalties, or net profit                    
  shares; and providing for an effective date.                                 
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY opened HB 226 for discussion.  He recognized                  
  the committee substitute, version E, before the committee                    
  and asked if there was a motion to adopt it for                              
  consideration.                                                               
                                                                               
  Number 073                                                                   
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS so moved.                                          
                                                                               
  Number 076                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY, hearing no objection, adopted CSHB 226,                      
  version E.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Number 087                                                                   
                                                                               
  DEBORAH VOGT, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, addressed HB 226                   
  requested by the Governor.  She had not had access to CSHB
  226, therefore she addressed the original HB 226.   She                      
  stated the Governor requested HB 226 to address two                          
  problems.  First, the interest rates of both pre and                         
  postcivil judgments are a set statutory 10.5 percent.  This                  
  10.5 percent does not fluctuate with market, therefore it is                 
  sometimes grossly disproportionate to what the state, a                      
  corporation, or an individual can earn to represent the time                 
  value of money while litigation is pending.  The                             
  Administration believes interest on judgments should not be                  
  an incentive for one party to settle, or for the other party                 
  to delay the litigation.  The rate should fluctuate with the                 
  market and represent the time value of the money.                            
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT stated the second purpose of HB 226 is to address                   
  the problem with back taxes and royalties.  She noted the                    
  interest rate for those payments was amended in the 1991                     
  legislative session to be a floating market interest rate,                   
  with an 11 percent floor.  The interest rate on underpayment                 
  is the same as the interest rate on overpayment.  Therefore,                 
  if a company overpays its taxes or royalties, it will be                     
  entitled to the same interest today from the state that the                  
  state would have collected, had the party underpaid.  She                    
  believed the considerations for interest are substantially                   
  different for taxes and royalties from civil litigation.                     
  She noted concern that the legislation has had the                           
  unintended effect of setting up the possibility that an                      
  individual or corporation might overpay their taxes or                       
  royalties, thereby entitled to an interest payment on a                      
  refund disproportionate to what the market would support.                    
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT commented the state is interested in these interest                 
  rates because it is a common litigant, much more as a                        
  defendant than a plaintiff.  HB 226 proposes that both pre                   
  and postjudgment interests will be a floating market rate                    
  tied to the coupon yield equivalent of the sales of treasury                 
  bills.  This market indicator was chosen because it is used                  
  by the federal courts and lawyers are at least partially                     
  familiar with it.  Their intent was to find an indicator                     
  that was reasonably reflective of the true market and                        
  adopted into civil litigation.  Interest rate simplicity is                  
  a concern with civil litigation.  There needs to be an                       
  indicator that tracks the market and is simple enough that                   
  civil litigants understand and apply it.                                     
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT stated the Administration chose the coupon yield                    
  equivalent as of January 1 for the preceding 52 weeks.  The                  
  indicator would change each year, not each month.                            
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT addressed the amendments proposed by the                            
  Administration to the original HB 226.  Regarding civil                      
  litigation, they suggest an amendment to the effective date                  
  making those parts of HB 226 effective as of January 1,                      
  1995, rather than immediately.  This would ease both the                     
  private sector and the state court system.                                   
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT referred to a sentence regarding the tax and                        
  royalty provisions in both the committee substitute and the                  
  original HB 226, which reads, "However, if the overpayment                   
  is the result of a correction made by the department, the                    
  amount overpaid bears interest at the rate, and in the                       
  manner provided in (d) of this section."  This language was                  
  intended to make a distinction between overpayments which                    
  are the fault of Department of Natural Resources or the                      
  Department of Revenue, versus the fault of the tax or                        
  royalty payer.  She stated this language would be extremely                  
  difficult to apply; therefore, it should be omitted from                     
  both the tax and royalty sections.                                           
                                                                               
  Number 258                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked MS. VOGT to clarify which version she                   
  was referring to.                                                            
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT clarified she was addressing the original HB 226.                   
  She stated the Administration would oppose CSHB 226 because                  
  it does fulfill the intentions of the Administration.                        
  Referring to CSHB 226, the market indicator chosen for civil                 
  litigation is five points above the federal reserve discount                 
  rate.  This would be significantly higher than the rate set                  
  out in the original HB 226.  She distributed and outlined a                  
  comparison chart for the committee. (A copy of the chart is                  
  on file.)                                                                    
                                                                               
  Number 293                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY clarified the federal discount rate has been                  
  constant since July 1, 1992 at three percent.  He noticed                    
  her report showed the rate at 3.5 percent in 1992.                           
                                                                               
  Number 297                                                                   
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT responded she received the figures from the                         
  Department of Revenue and they had simply conveyed the                       
  figures were from "January."  Therefore, she assumed they                    
  meant "January, 1, 1992."  She did not dispute that the rate                 
  changed to three percent in July.                                            
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT redirected to the report and examined the                           
  difference between the middle column, portraying the CSHB
  226 discount rate plus five percent and the far right                        
  column, portraying the HB 226 coupon yield equivalent.  She                  
  submitted that the coupon yield equivalent numbers were more                 
  reflective of the time value of money.                                       
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT addressed CSHB 226 as it deals with provisions on                   
  taxes and royalties.  She stated CSHB 226 raises the                         
  interest rate the state would pay on overpayments back up to                 
  five points above the federal discount rate.  Except for the                 
  11 percent floor, it would be the same rate the state                        
  charges for royalty and taxpayers for underpayment.  The                     
  point of the original HB 226 was to make a difference                        
  between underpayment and overpayments; similar to federal                    
  procedure.  The 11 percent floor is also removed from the                    
  interest on overpayments in CSHB 226.                                        
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT pointed out the tort reform legislation which has                   
  been proceeding through the legislature, also has interest                   
  on judgments provisions in it.  She noted those provisions                   
  were more similar to CSHB 226, except that they are three                    
  percent, instead of five percent above the federal discount                  
  rate.  The legislature would have to choose which type of                    
  legislation it would like to follow since there are two                      
  similar pieces flowing through the process.                                  
                                                                               
  Number 345                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY asked her to clarify which two pieces of                      
  legislation.                                                                 
                                                                               
  MS. VOGT clarified the tort reform legislation with interest                 
  on pre and postcivil judgment provisions.                                    
                                                                               
  Number 351                                                                   
                                                                               
  CHAIRMAN VEZEY commented "the Governor's proposal to tell                    
  people that their money is worth 3.49 percent, or slightly                   
  above that discount rate, is license of steel."  Therefore,                  
  he held CSHB 226 in committee for further consideration.                     

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